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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jackie,

Yes, she&#039;s got the sensory problems, along with anxiety, etc.  When the anxiety kicks in, the OCD goes crazy and her tics get out of control.  And she&#039;s on the MILD side of spectrum.  You wouldn&#039;t know she&#039;s an Aspie on first sight unless you&#039;re quite familiar with them.


We ride the fence between educating those who don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot; and have a little understanding, and keeping her at home when it&#039;s necessary for her...not for society.   Generally she&#039;s in decompress mode when she needs it and I take her to the side to do so, so it doesn&#039;t disturb other people.  I do that with my non-Aspie kid too though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jackie,</p>
<p>Yes, she&#8217;s got the sensory problems, along with anxiety, etc.  When the anxiety kicks in, the OCD goes crazy and her tics get out of control.  And she&#8217;s on the MILD side of spectrum.  You wouldn&#8217;t know she&#8217;s an Aspie on first sight unless you&#8217;re quite familiar with them.</p>
<p>We ride the fence between educating those who don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221; and have a little understanding, and keeping her at home when it&#8217;s necessary for her&#8230;not for society.   Generally she&#8217;s in decompress mode when she needs it and I take her to the side to do so, so it doesn&#8217;t disturb other people.  I do that with my non-Aspie kid too though.</p>
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		<title>By: fed up with rude kids and their parents</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2008/11/20/i-hate-your-kids/#comment-89632</link>
		<dc:creator>fed up with rude kids and their parents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 11:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Giggle Pixie, I agree, how about kids who call stare at and call people who have a handicapp ugly, and the parents do nothing
I had a kid call me the R word and say eww to her mother, the mother said I guess your right to her daughter, the kid was about 10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Giggle Pixie, I agree, how about kids who call stare at and call people who have a handicapp ugly, and the parents do nothing<br />
I had a kid call me the R word and say eww to her mother, the mother said I guess your right to her daughter, the kid was about 10.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2008/11/20/i-hate-your-kids/#comment-89630</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 03:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Allyson, I typically am not harassed by people without children. Nor am I told by them that I should stay home, if I have a problem with them, because they do not cause trouble. Where as parents demand everyone worship their child, and if they don&#039;t they deserve to be treated terribly.

Animals are designed to procreate, humans have brains and can decide wether or not to breed. Having children isn&#039;t a manifest destiny. You say that non-breeders are less important to the world. That sounds like someone who believes one is only a worthy person if they&#039;ve given into their animal urges, and have made a baby.

I am tired of this sense of entitlement over all others by parents. Now to the point where they can dictate who should be out in public and who shouldn&#039;t. The fact is parents are solely responsible for their children. The village does not exsist for them to pass the buck when they are having a lazy day. If you can&#039;t behave your children stay home. In the majority of cases people choose to have children, and in choosing that lifestyle comes certain responsiblities. You are claiming non-breeders are lesser, because they have the strength and independance to get through life without being tied down with children. Really?

I find it very upsetting that people like you suggest that people like me shouldn&#039;t go out, because we&#039;re not babylovers. You know, I don&#039;t have any right to expect decent behavior from others, since it&#039;s so rare to find people who can see past themselves and their children, to understand that people without children have feelings too.

There are more and more people every day deciding to shun society, because our society is so messed up that you can&#039;t even go one day without encountering some parental drama. It&#039;s difficult living in a society where the rules of common courtesy seem to go out the window whenever children are involved. I rarely if ever encounter problems with adults, I almost always encounter some sort of issue with parents.

The fact is animals procreate everyday, having a baby is simply a part of nature. It&#039;s a natural process, like going to the bathroom. It&#039;s time for people to stop acting as if it takes some special ability to breed, and start respecting those who use their brains to get ahead instead of their bodies. I guess most parents are so miserable, that they have to demand everyone join in their conviction that they&#039;re somehow special. All I ask is to be able to go out, and not deal with some parental drama. Apparently my only choice is to stay home, because it&#039;s too much to expect that parents behave themselves. Once you have a baby apparently your brain goes full primative, and even basic concepts like apologizing when you or your child acts out, are lost. Instead life is just one tantrum after the next, don&#039;t like living in a society that gives free reign to adults who&#039;s social skills are at age 3? Stay at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Allyson, I typically am not harassed by people without children. Nor am I told by them that I should stay home, if I have a problem with them, because they do not cause trouble. Where as parents demand everyone worship their child, and if they don&#8217;t they deserve to be treated terribly.</p>
<p>Animals are designed to procreate, humans have brains and can decide wether or not to breed. Having children isn&#8217;t a manifest destiny. You say that non-breeders are less important to the world. That sounds like someone who believes one is only a worthy person if they&#8217;ve given into their animal urges, and have made a baby.</p>
<p>I am tired of this sense of entitlement over all others by parents. Now to the point where they can dictate who should be out in public and who shouldn&#8217;t. The fact is parents are solely responsible for their children. The village does not exsist for them to pass the buck when they are having a lazy day. If you can&#8217;t behave your children stay home. In the majority of cases people choose to have children, and in choosing that lifestyle comes certain responsiblities. You are claiming non-breeders are lesser, because they have the strength and independance to get through life without being tied down with children. Really?</p>
<p>I find it very upsetting that people like you suggest that people like me shouldn&#8217;t go out, because we&#8217;re not babylovers. You know, I don&#8217;t have any right to expect decent behavior from others, since it&#8217;s so rare to find people who can see past themselves and their children, to understand that people without children have feelings too.</p>
<p>There are more and more people every day deciding to shun society, because our society is so messed up that you can&#8217;t even go one day without encountering some parental drama. It&#8217;s difficult living in a society where the rules of common courtesy seem to go out the window whenever children are involved. I rarely if ever encounter problems with adults, I almost always encounter some sort of issue with parents.</p>
<p>The fact is animals procreate everyday, having a baby is simply a part of nature. It&#8217;s a natural process, like going to the bathroom. It&#8217;s time for people to stop acting as if it takes some special ability to breed, and start respecting those who use their brains to get ahead instead of their bodies. I guess most parents are so miserable, that they have to demand everyone join in their conviction that they&#8217;re somehow special. All I ask is to be able to go out, and not deal with some parental drama. Apparently my only choice is to stay home, because it&#8217;s too much to expect that parents behave themselves. Once you have a baby apparently your brain goes full primative, and even basic concepts like apologizing when you or your child acts out, are lost. Instead life is just one tantrum after the next, don&#8217;t like living in a society that gives free reign to adults who&#8217;s social skills are at age 3? Stay at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Allyson</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2008/11/20/i-hate-your-kids/#comment-89628</link>
		<dc:creator>Allyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jackie, your rights aren&#039;t actually being violated.  No one has a &quot;right&quot; to not be annoyed or irritated. And what I said to Avi, was if you don&#039;t want to be annoyed or irritated then stay home, as going out in public is annoying with or without children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jackie, your rights aren&#8217;t actually being violated.  No one has a &#8220;right&#8221; to not be annoyed or irritated. And what I said to Avi, was if you don&#8217;t want to be annoyed or irritated then stay home, as going out in public is annoying with or without children.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2008/11/20/i-hate-your-kids/#comment-89626</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 20:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think parents who allow their children to misbehave need a psychiatrist. There are some real issues here, as far as parents completely departing from reality when their children misbehave. From, having tantrums, regressing to the behavior of a young child, to aggressive and abusive behavior. Why is it that parents are allowed to behave so irrationally? The reality that most parents will do anything short of a psychotic meltdown, to convince themselves their child never misbehaves, is something that needs to be delt with. You want to know why people glare at parents, trying to talk to them about their child misbehaving, only results in the type of behavior one would expect of a mentally ill person. Adults don&#039;t make faces, look around then act as if they&#039;re about to burst into tears like a helpless 3 year old, scream like a banshee because their child knocked over some DVDs, or berate someone for telling them they need to behave their child, until that person is broken.

Could someone explain to me why this behavior is seen as even remotely normal? Are you telling me that hormones get so out of whack after pregnancy, that one acquires a condition of emotional unstability like a person with Bipolar disorder? Not only is the behavioral instability of parents with misbehaving children frustrating, it is frightening. People don&#039;t try to talk to parents, because they know if they do they will be confronted with wildly unpredictable irrational behavior.

I have a condition where high pitched sounds cause me pain. Save going to bars, there is no place I can go that isn&#039;t free of unbehaved children. I go to a restaurant, I&#039;m told something is wrong with me for not sharing in the delusion that the screaming of a child, sounds like an angel&#039;s choir. I go shopping, I&#039;m confronted with monsterous parents who expect everyone to ignore their screaming baby. I rarely get any understanding for my condition, because it is one that requires parents to behave like adults, and actually parent their children. Based on the extreme personality disorders it seems one acquires after pregnancy, all I can do is glare. I am not a parent, which puts me at the front of the line for the reaction from parents, like someone has threatened their child with a shotgun. If I am not outright attacked for not joining or sponsoring the cult of the breeder, I am told I have no right to particpate in society because of my condition. I try my best to function under these circumstances.  

I know of no other group of people, if not encouraged, allowed to openly display hatred and abuse others. These parents then wonder why their children have grown up to be manipulative bullies in school, when they have taught them that behavior themselves. Nothing is more disgusting than seeing an adult woman, resort to the behavior of a small child when told they need to behave their child. I would think after age 30 a woman, would understand making big eyes, looking as if they&#039;re about to collapse on the floor crying, looking around as if they&#039;re lost like a toddler in a grocery store isn&#039;t acceptable behavior. It seems there is a clear association between becoming a parent, and age regressive behavior. Aside from those who are mentally disabled, I don&#039;t know of another group of people who gain understanding and support, despite acting like a 3 year old in an adult body. 

This is why those of us who are childfree find parents so irritating. A 3 year old cannot call the cops on you, an adult behaving and thinking like a 3 year old can. It&#039;s better to try and send a message through glaring, rather than inviting abuse or being put in the position of looking like someone who just stole a little girl&#039;s favorite dolly, when it comes to parents who feel it&#039;s appropriate to behave at the same age as their own small children. There is simply no rationalizing with these parents, they will go through countless mood and personality changes, in a desperate attempt to resolve the conflict between reality and the delusion they live in. Their child isn&#039;t misbehaving, not in their little world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think parents who allow their children to misbehave need a psychiatrist. There are some real issues here, as far as parents completely departing from reality when their children misbehave. From, having tantrums, regressing to the behavior of a young child, to aggressive and abusive behavior. Why is it that parents are allowed to behave so irrationally? The reality that most parents will do anything short of a psychotic meltdown, to convince themselves their child never misbehaves, is something that needs to be delt with. You want to know why people glare at parents, trying to talk to them about their child misbehaving, only results in the type of behavior one would expect of a mentally ill person. Adults don&#8217;t make faces, look around then act as if they&#8217;re about to burst into tears like a helpless 3 year old, scream like a banshee because their child knocked over some DVDs, or berate someone for telling them they need to behave their child, until that person is broken.</p>
<p>Could someone explain to me why this behavior is seen as even remotely normal? Are you telling me that hormones get so out of whack after pregnancy, that one acquires a condition of emotional unstability like a person with Bipolar disorder? Not only is the behavioral instability of parents with misbehaving children frustrating, it is frightening. People don&#8217;t try to talk to parents, because they know if they do they will be confronted with wildly unpredictable irrational behavior.</p>
<p>I have a condition where high pitched sounds cause me pain. Save going to bars, there is no place I can go that isn&#8217;t free of unbehaved children. I go to a restaurant, I&#8217;m told something is wrong with me for not sharing in the delusion that the screaming of a child, sounds like an angel&#8217;s choir. I go shopping, I&#8217;m confronted with monsterous parents who expect everyone to ignore their screaming baby. I rarely get any understanding for my condition, because it is one that requires parents to behave like adults, and actually parent their children. Based on the extreme personality disorders it seems one acquires after pregnancy, all I can do is glare. I am not a parent, which puts me at the front of the line for the reaction from parents, like someone has threatened their child with a shotgun. If I am not outright attacked for not joining or sponsoring the cult of the breeder, I am told I have no right to particpate in society because of my condition. I try my best to function under these circumstances.  </p>
<p>I know of no other group of people, if not encouraged, allowed to openly display hatred and abuse others. These parents then wonder why their children have grown up to be manipulative bullies in school, when they have taught them that behavior themselves. Nothing is more disgusting than seeing an adult woman, resort to the behavior of a small child when told they need to behave their child. I would think after age 30 a woman, would understand making big eyes, looking as if they&#8217;re about to collapse on the floor crying, looking around as if they&#8217;re lost like a toddler in a grocery store isn&#8217;t acceptable behavior. It seems there is a clear association between becoming a parent, and age regressive behavior. Aside from those who are mentally disabled, I don&#8217;t know of another group of people who gain understanding and support, despite acting like a 3 year old in an adult body. </p>
<p>This is why those of us who are childfree find parents so irritating. A 3 year old cannot call the cops on you, an adult behaving and thinking like a 3 year old can. It&#8217;s better to try and send a message through glaring, rather than inviting abuse or being put in the position of looking like someone who just stole a little girl&#8217;s favorite dolly, when it comes to parents who feel it&#8217;s appropriate to behave at the same age as their own small children. There is simply no rationalizing with these parents, they will go through countless mood and personality changes, in a desperate attempt to resolve the conflict between reality and the delusion they live in. Their child isn&#8217;t misbehaving, not in their little world.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kids r mean, that&#039;s because their parents don&#039;t know how to say sorry. The majority of the time, parents with kids like that live in their own world where only they and their children matter. It&#039;s like trying to reason with a lunatic, explaining to them their child did something wrong. They will go into complete hysterics, anything to set their imagined reality back into order. Most parents live delusionally like this. Their child misbehaves, expect a nervous breakdown or dissociation from one&#039;s self, until they&#039;ve set their reality back into they way they imagine it to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kids r mean, that&#8217;s because their parents don&#8217;t know how to say sorry. The majority of the time, parents with kids like that live in their own world where only they and their children matter. It&#8217;s like trying to reason with a lunatic, explaining to them their child did something wrong. They will go into complete hysterics, anything to set their imagined reality back into order. Most parents live delusionally like this. Their child misbehaves, expect a nervous breakdown or dissociation from one&#8217;s self, until they&#8217;ve set their reality back into they way they imagine it to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2008/11/20/i-hate-your-kids/#comment-89624</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Solo-Dad, teachable-two moments? What a cute term, so you can avoid the reality that your child was misbehaving. That&#039;s the type of parental delusionment I&#039;ve been talking about. As far as the man saying your child was a monster, you showed you were just as immature if not more immature than him. The proper response is, &quot;I&#039;m sorry.&quot;

It&#039;s just too much for parents to put their egos aside, step out of their little world where only they and their children exsist, and apologize. No, instead it&#039;s easier to hide behind baby talk like teachabuh momant, and keep telling yourself your child isn&#039;t misbehaving. Keep telling yourself until you&#039;ve gotten yourself into that delusional place where nobody can touch you or your child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Solo-Dad, teachable-two moments? What a cute term, so you can avoid the reality that your child was misbehaving. That&#8217;s the type of parental delusionment I&#8217;ve been talking about. As far as the man saying your child was a monster, you showed you were just as immature if not more immature than him. The proper response is, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just too much for parents to put their egos aside, step out of their little world where only they and their children exsist, and apologize. No, instead it&#8217;s easier to hide behind baby talk like teachabuh momant, and keep telling yourself your child isn&#8217;t misbehaving. Keep telling yourself until you&#8217;ve gotten yourself into that delusional place where nobody can touch you or your child.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2008/11/20/i-hate-your-kids/#comment-89623</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@martymankins, not to mention that parent should be called in to CPS for emotionally abusing their child. Only a truly sick or mentally ill parent, would think it&#039;s alright to take their baby or young child to a violent film. Then the schools have to deal with their sadistic bully, when they are older, because their first lesson in life was how to treat someone with malice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@martymankins, not to mention that parent should be called in to CPS for emotionally abusing their child. Only a truly sick or mentally ill parent, would think it&#8217;s alright to take their baby or young child to a violent film. Then the schools have to deal with their sadistic bully, when they are older, because their first lesson in life was how to treat someone with malice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2008/11/20/i-hate-your-kids/#comment-89622</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jozet at Halushki, the truth is you can&#039;t tell when a parent is being God awful, or having a bad moment. Truth is parents are adults right? Why does everyone then insist we treat them like children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jozet at Halushki, the truth is you can&#8217;t tell when a parent is being God awful, or having a bad moment. Truth is parents are adults right? Why does everyone then insist we treat them like children?</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2008/11/20/i-hate-your-kids/#comment-89621</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@just beth, how are they supposed to learn to behave you ask? You teach them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@just beth, how are they supposed to learn to behave you ask? You teach them.</p>
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