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	<title>Comments on: Pedophilia vs. Murder &#8211; which is worse?</title>
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	<description>Where tact goes to die</description>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2009/12/05/pedophilia-vs-murder-which-is-worse/#comment-62903</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of pussy posting is this one? I was expecting something irreverent, not a CSI investigation or a discussion of a moral dilema. Who wrote this? Ann Coulter? Montel Williams? 
Please, go back to the tactless subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of pussy posting is this one? I was expecting something irreverent, not a CSI investigation or a discussion of a moral dilema. Who wrote this? Ann Coulter? Montel Williams?<br />
Please, go back to the tactless subjects.</p>
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		<title>By: Karin aka perpstu</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2009/12/05/pedophilia-vs-murder-which-is-worse/#comment-62848</link>
		<dc:creator>Karin aka perpstu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole story makes me so sad. The whole thing is just tragic and like you, I have so many questions about the whole situation that will probably never be answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole story makes me so sad. The whole thing is just tragic and like you, I have so many questions about the whole situation that will probably never be answered.</p>
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		<title>By: Mik</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2009/12/05/pedophilia-vs-murder-which-is-worse/#comment-62794</link>
		<dc:creator>Mik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both crimes are equally horrific, upon reading the post my first thought was if the father was hiding something. No matter the crime I would think it should be hard for a father to kill his own son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both crimes are equally horrific, upon reading the post my first thought was if the father was hiding something. No matter the crime I would think it should be hard for a father to kill his own son.</p>
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		<title>By: Loukia</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2009/12/05/pedophilia-vs-murder-which-is-worse/#comment-62728</link>
		<dc:creator>Loukia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is just a horrific, tragic story all around. I think if the 15 year old was alive today, I would indeed want him jailed for a very long time/life. At the same time... as a parent myself, no matter what my children do in their life, I, personally, could never lift a finger to them, no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is just a horrific, tragic story all around. I think if the 15 year old was alive today, I would indeed want him jailed for a very long time/life. At the same time&#8230; as a parent myself, no matter what my children do in their life, I, personally, could never lift a finger to them, no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: Princess of the Universe</title>
		<link>http://www.avitable.com/2009/12/05/pedophilia-vs-murder-which-is-worse/#comment-62727</link>
		<dc:creator>Princess of the Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the article he didn&#039;t rape the girl - and he asked for help. Why did he ask for help?
Now in my mind, anyone who touches a child inappropriately should be given the death sentence - I am in no way trying to justify what he did. 
But I find it hard to wrap my head around the fact that a father murdered his own child. Because really, 15 - while old enough to know better than to touch a 3 year-old, is still a child. 
I think both acts were despicable - but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to find that the boy suffered some kind of trauma or abuse in his life to result in such behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the article he didn&#8217;t rape the girl &#8211; and he asked for help. Why did he ask for help?<br />
Now in my mind, anyone who touches a child inappropriately should be given the death sentence &#8211; I am in no way trying to justify what he did.<br />
But I find it hard to wrap my head around the fact that a father murdered his own child. Because really, 15 &#8211; while old enough to know better than to touch a 3 year-old, is still a child.<br />
I think both acts were despicable &#8211; but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to find that the boy suffered some kind of trauma or abuse in his life to result in such behaviour.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This entire story is just so disgusting from start to finish that it is almost impossible for me to wrap my mind around it but here goes.

To be able to destroy your own child, no matter how disgusting of an act your child committed, is a mark of a disturbed mind, at least. The fact that a heinous act was allegedly committed against another of your children makes violence against that first, older child, more comprehensible but still very, very horrific.

What puzzles me is that there is no physical evidence of this heinous act of rape (stated in the article). Given the age of the victim, I find that surprising.  I also find it surprising that the father was so quick to believe his son&#039;s horrible act.  And I also am sickened by the ritualistic way the father stripped and beat the son before executing him.

I think you are right--something seems even more twisted than this almost unbelievably twisted account already appears to be.

A word on recidivism.  I hate to say this because I don&#039;t have time to do the research right now but I wonder what the statistics are when this sort of violent, sociopathic behavior is caught in the early teens.  Yes, I agree with you 100% that 15 is old enough to know that this is a very, very wrong thing to do (assuming it actually happened)...but is it young enough to change--and does it matter (medically speaking, not legally or morally) whether the act was done out of a morally repulsive sexual desire (pedophilia) or an act of violence done out of another type of derangement?

As to which is worse--I think that being raped is worse as far as suffering for the victim and perhaps represents an even sicker psyche in the perpetrator...but when it comes down to it, a person who has been raped still has a chance to rebuild a life, to be a survivor, where as the victim of a murder does not. Would a parent rather have the opportunity to help a child rebuild his or her life or have that child dead?

Would I kill someone who raped my daughter? Yes. Would I be able to do it if it were my own son? I don&#039;t know.  Good Lord, I don&#039;t want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entire story is just so disgusting from start to finish that it is almost impossible for me to wrap my mind around it but here goes.</p>
<p>To be able to destroy your own child, no matter how disgusting of an act your child committed, is a mark of a disturbed mind, at least. The fact that a heinous act was allegedly committed against another of your children makes violence against that first, older child, more comprehensible but still very, very horrific.</p>
<p>What puzzles me is that there is no physical evidence of this heinous act of rape (stated in the article). Given the age of the victim, I find that surprising.  I also find it surprising that the father was so quick to believe his son&#8217;s horrible act.  And I also am sickened by the ritualistic way the father stripped and beat the son before executing him.</p>
<p>I think you are right&#8211;something seems even more twisted than this almost unbelievably twisted account already appears to be.</p>
<p>A word on recidivism.  I hate to say this because I don&#8217;t have time to do the research right now but I wonder what the statistics are when this sort of violent, sociopathic behavior is caught in the early teens.  Yes, I agree with you 100% that 15 is old enough to know that this is a very, very wrong thing to do (assuming it actually happened)&#8230;but is it young enough to change&#8211;and does it matter (medically speaking, not legally or morally) whether the act was done out of a morally repulsive sexual desire (pedophilia) or an act of violence done out of another type of derangement?</p>
<p>As to which is worse&#8211;I think that being raped is worse as far as suffering for the victim and perhaps represents an even sicker psyche in the perpetrator&#8230;but when it comes down to it, a person who has been raped still has a chance to rebuild a life, to be a survivor, where as the victim of a murder does not. Would a parent rather have the opportunity to help a child rebuild his or her life or have that child dead?</p>
<p>Would I kill someone who raped my daughter? Yes. Would I be able to do it if it were my own son? I don&#8217;t know.  Good Lord, I don&#8217;t want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: JD at I Do Things</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD at I Do Things</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And neither of them deserve our sympathy.&quot;

That&#039;s probably the only thing everyone will agree on.

I think pedophila is murder, so to me, there&#039;s no difference. 

But, as much as we&#039;d like to, we can&#039;t take the law into our own hands. Did that 15-year-old get what he deserved? Maybe, but it&#039;s not up to me or you or his dad to decide that. 

Sad, sad, sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And neither of them deserve our sympathy.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably the only thing everyone will agree on.</p>
<p>I think pedophila is murder, so to me, there&#8217;s no difference. </p>
<p>But, as much as we&#8217;d like to, we can&#8217;t take the law into our own hands. Did that 15-year-old get what he deserved? Maybe, but it&#8217;s not up to me or you or his dad to decide that. </p>
<p>Sad, sad, sad.</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shocking and disgusting story.  This line stood out to me and seemed to vaguely support your theory:

&quot;He said, &#039;You want to see some counseling?&#039; And he started to pull Jamar&#039;s pants off. Jamar Jr. is saying, &#039;No Daddy, no,&#039; &quot; Yolanda Cherry said.

Also, I found it odd that after seeing her nephew being pistol-whipped, the aunt and the other relatives left the boy alone.  She cried on the stand, but c&#039;mon... what did they think would happen in that situation?  Perhaps what everyone in their family secretly wished would happen...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shocking and disgusting story.  This line stood out to me and seemed to vaguely support your theory:</p>
<p>&#8220;He said, &#8216;You want to see some counseling?&#8217; And he started to pull Jamar&#8217;s pants off. Jamar Jr. is saying, &#8216;No Daddy, no,&#8217; &#8221; Yolanda Cherry said.</p>
<p>Also, I found it odd that after seeing her nephew being pistol-whipped, the aunt and the other relatives left the boy alone.  She cried on the stand, but c&#8217;mon&#8230; what did they think would happen in that situation?  Perhaps what everyone in their family secretly wished would happen&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Hockeyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hockeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is a tough one. Abuse is a circle. I learned that in high school. Not 100% of course, but I bet it&#039;s over 90. I think you&#039;re on to something in thinking there was more to the story regarding history. That was a pretty harsh first choice of reaction. The sad part is it will all still come out in his own trial and sentencing. There is now a mother and spouse that must live with the reality of what transpired. A child was murdered and did not get the chance of rehabilitation where it would be possible to fix. Having my own 3 year old, I am grossed out by the crime committed by the teenager, although I don&#039;t think I would wish for death on the perpetrator. At first I might, but rational thinking would ultimately prevail. I have only sadness for the family surrounding these 2 people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is a tough one. Abuse is a circle. I learned that in high school. Not 100% of course, but I bet it&#8217;s over 90. I think you&#8217;re on to something in thinking there was more to the story regarding history. That was a pretty harsh first choice of reaction. The sad part is it will all still come out in his own trial and sentencing. There is now a mother and spouse that must live with the reality of what transpired. A child was murdered and did not get the chance of rehabilitation where it would be possible to fix. Having my own 3 year old, I am grossed out by the crime committed by the teenager, although I don&#8217;t think I would wish for death on the perpetrator. At first I might, but rational thinking would ultimately prevail. I have only sadness for the family surrounding these 2 people.</p>
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		<title>By: thepsychobabble</title>
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		<dc:creator>thepsychobabble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Avitable, Fair enough. A large majority of sex offenders can&#039;t/won&#039;t respond to any sort of rehab. But at the very least, that decision should have been left up to a judge/jury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Avitable, Fair enough. A large majority of sex offenders can&#8217;t/won&#8217;t respond to any sort of rehab. But at the very least, that decision should have been left up to a judge/jury.</p>
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